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Confusion over law halts Scots organ transplants



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Published Date: 06 July 2008
SCORES of desperately ill Scots have been denied organ transplants because of mistakes by medical staff and confusion over the law, Scotland on Sunday can reveal.



An investigation by the authorities has established that on seven occasions in one year, relatives stepped in to stop organs being taken even though the donor had signed up to the Organ Donor Register. To do so breaches current donation laws.

And a separate investigation at a Scottish hospital unit discovered several occasions where staff missed clear opportunities to provide organs for donation.

In all, it is estimated that as many as 100 potential transplants were lost because of the problems.

Campaigners said last night the revelations strengthened the case for better procedures and training within hospitals, and for reform of donation law to a system of presumed consent. Scotland on Sunday is campaigning for ministers to make this change.

Papers obtained under Freedom of Information laws show that between November 2006 and December 2007 there were seven occasions on which families intervened to stop organs being taken from relatives on the register. In some cases families refused donation altogether and in other cases they refused donation of certain organs, corneas or tissue.

Two years ago the law was changed, enshrining people's rights to "authorise" donation of their own organs by signing the Organ Donor Register.

The Human Tissue Act (Scotland) 2006 states that relatives should only be asked if there are any medical reasons

preventing donation. However, the report reveals that in practice doctors are unwilling to overrule relatives' wishes even if that means ignoring the wishes of the deceased.

The loss of seven potential donors is particularly serious because only around 50 Scots a year become organ donors.

The investigation, carried out by government body The Scottish Transplant Group, was prompted by revelations in Scotland on Sunday last year that doctors were reluctant on ethical grounds to overrule next of kin.

Last night John Forsythe, chairman of the Scottish Transplant Group, said the issue was "very sensitive" but insisted doctors would not take organs if it was going to cause relatives further distress.

He said: "If relatives are saying no because it's a step too far in this tragic incident then what do you do? There has to be a pragmatic approach. Can you imagine relatives holding on to a bed, saying we mustn't take loved ones? It would be awful."

Another investigation, of the neurological intensive care unit at the Southern General Hospital, Glasgow found "occasional missed opportunities" to refer accident victims for assessment for their potential as organ donors.

An audit from 2005-2007 found a total of eight cases where a donor might have been found but was not.

In six cases a donor transplant coordinator was not involved, which is seen by experts as the best way to reassure families. On one occasion, organ retrieval could not go ahead because of a lack of theatre space and on the other occasion a suitable patient was missed.

However, despite this, donation rates were still found to be higher at the Southern General than at other UK hospitals.

Campaigners point out that every donor is desperately needed. There are currently 7,551 patients waiting for transplants across the UK and one donor can save the lives of several people.

Gillian MacCormick, who has been waiting for a liver transplant for two years, said the wishes of the deceased should be prioritised.

"If someone has requested that their organs be used I definitely don't think their family has the right to overrule that."


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  • Last Updated: 05 July 2008 9:39 PM
  • Source: Scotland On Sunday
  • Location: Scotland
  • Related Topics: Health of the NHS
 
1

Guga II,

Rockall 06/07/2008 05:47:59
The article states that only around 50 Scots a year become donors. If this is the case, then that surely means that the majority of Scots would not support this Stalinist, totalitarian proposal for "presumed consent".

These so-called "campaigners", and Scotland on Sunday should realise that people have an absolute right to refuse to donate organs, and that no government or any other organisation has the right to force presumed consent on the people, or to try and tell people what they can and cannot do with their bodies, or the bodies of their loved ones.

I would like to hear from these "campaigners" just how many of them have agreed to donate their organs, or is this group of so-called "campaigners" so small as to be totally insignificant?

As for Scotland on Sunday and their support for a totalitarian "presumed consent", why not tell us exactly what percentage of the staff, and their families, at the Hootsmon have agreed to be organ donors.

If, as implied, there are so many people who are gung-ho for presumed consent, then there should be no need for any government diktat, as there must be sufficient people willing to become organ donors.

Will the Hootsmon be starting a campaign next, to start body snatching from any indigents, paupers and homeless people that die off? Burke and Hare eat your heart out.

2

Blindscout,

Fife 06/07/2008 08:03:04
#1 - This story is not about presumed consent, but I would support that anyway providing you have the option of opting out. But unless you are of a faith that would object to organ transplant, most people would accept an organ especially for a loved one whos life prospects are very short unless they get a transplant. So why not the other way round and give an organ instead.

This story is about not taking organs from people who have given their consent prior to death, as the family are refusing. It should be treated as a will and the family should not be able to overrule the deceased wishes. What is needed is better dialogue prior to the decision from the donor, advising the family of their wishes, and maybe this is an area that should be looked at, as when death comes, grief does strange and irrational things to the minds of those left.

3

Anne,

Eaglesham 06/07/2008 08:18:33
Seems obvious, Guga, that you don't know anyone on the transplant list,

When you do, your attitude is likely to undergo a sea change.

All my family had registered for organ donation before one fell ill.
4

WKKB,

06/07/2008 09:17:16
Presumed consent is a little like voting. If you don't do it your choice may not be heard but if DO there is a greater chance that your choice WILL be heard. If they put presumed consent into place, people who are strongly opposed to it will be sure to opt out. The trouble is, people simply forget to sign up to be a donor until sometimes it's too late. It took me ages to remember to put my name on the donor list but I told my family all along that when I go please have the Dr's take what ever can be used to help another grieving family. When I die my family will sad but if I can help another family I want to so they don't feel the same way my family will feel. No good 2 of us dying if one can be saved!
5

WKKB,

06/07/2008 09:24:43
My mother was approved for a kidney transplant. The Drs went though her children and deemed only one to be a suitable donor because of damage due to illness in the rest of us. Just one month before my Mom's transplant she went into hospital for a very routine check, they kept her overnight because of her age. Well... what we didn't know was that the ward they kept her on was filled with MRSA positive patients. Long story short, she died 3 months later due to complications caused by MRSA. This comment isn't about MRSA though, it's about what she went through just to get on the transplant list and receive hope that she would survive the kidney failure that was caused by high blood pressure. We all had hope that she'd see another Christmas and another Birthday and Mother's Day but that didn't happen. Interestingly enough the Dr's have told my sister who had diseased kidneys when she was born that she will most likely need a transplant within 10 years and who will be there for her... My brother. But, if he wasn't there she would have to rely on an unknown (to us) donor to save her life.

I agree with #3's comment... Guga, unless someone you love needs a transplant you'll never know how it feels!
6

Glasgow Jim,

Glasgow 06/07/2008 10:15:09
Offering organs you no longer need can only cause 'further distress' to your relatives if they weren't expecting it.

Sign the register, carry the card and make sure your next-of-kin know what you've done and why. Make it clear you don't want them second guessing your wishes.
7

Tartan Buffalo,

06/07/2008 10:16:05
Our family was given 7 extra years with my gran (whom I adored) thanks to the kind donation of an organ by someone and the wonderful work of the people at the ERI.Like others have said you can not imagine what it feels like to be waiting on someone to donate a tissue matching organ for your loved one. Having said that I am positive that my gran would have opposed presumed consent on ethical grounds. I certainly do!
8

Toast,

06/07/2008 10:27:58
Surely with all the administrators in the NHS each hospital could have one who is specially trained in the law governing organ donation and also in the sensitivity of dealing with emotional relatives.
9

Phil1,

Edinburgh 06/07/2008 10:29:43
I support any proposal to getting more people to sign up as an organ donor and when they do they should tell their family and Doctors should follow their wishes and take the organs whatever the family say. Everyone owns their own body - the state does not own it nor do families.

However, 'presumed consent' is a stalinist or fascist regime's type of law. Under 'presumed consent regimes' it means that the state decides who owns your body. If people want to become an organ donor it is not difficult to do - don't talk rubbish about people just forgeting to sign up to do it - if people want to become organ donors they can do so easily. The fact that most do not sign up means they don't want to not that they do want want to but are just too lazy, stupid or forgetful as the fascist, talinist 'presumed consent liberal's claim.

'Presumed consent' violates human rights - those who support it would be better using publicity to get people to sign up to organ donation rather than claimimg the state owns everyone's body.

If I do not sign up as an organ donor then don't you 'presumed comsent supporters' dare decide that I really wanted to but just forget
10

Hugh V McLachlan,

Elderslie 06/07/2008 11:59:56
'Campaigners said last night the revelations strengthened the case for better procedures and training within hospitals, and for reform of donation law to a system of presumed consent. Scotland on Sunday is campaigning for ministers to make this change.'

To say that the case for a system of presumed consent is strenghened because the authorities cannot be trusted to implement the current legislation is absurd. They can be no more trusted to implement a presumed consent system. For instance, we might register our explicit absence of consent only to find that our registration has been lost.

Unless the authorities can prove that we have consented, they should not use our organs.
11

TimW1234,

Ottawa, Canada 06/07/2008 12:42:55
Here in Canada there is a law under discussion in our Parliament about having everyone on the " organ donor list" and they can opt out for religious or other reasons.

Works for me. These organs are desperately needed by the gravely ill and dying.
12

Balliol II,

Dunbar 06/07/2008 13:44:59
The law of who 'owns' a body needs clarification urgently. I do not think reltives have any rights of ownership and the expressed wishes of the dead should surely apply?
13

Rabster,

06/07/2008 15:20:40
It's sad how many posters on here are so mistrustful of the doctors and "the authorities". All the doctors want to do is to help as many people as possible. Your organs are no use to you when you are dead so why would any rational person object to them being used to help someone else? Arguments based on ownership and human rights are just silly - what good is ownership of your body or any other rights going to do you when you are dead?
14

Jock Tamson,

Scotland, Caledonia, Alba 06/07/2008 16:22:22
Well, my organs won't be much use for donation but I sympathise with those who need transplants.

Don't really see anything wrong with the opt out system though. After all, you can opt out.

Personally, I give not one whit about what happens to my body when I leave it behind for others to clear it up.
15

Regret,

06/07/2008 16:33:05
#13 - This is why there are still problems with the transplantation industry after 40 years - organs are NOT removed from dead bodies - only removed from LIVING bodies. Of course not one needs their organs after death, but it is the organ removal that causes the true and only one death. Brain death is only a "concept" an idea that they wanted to have the people believe. Now they are getting organ donors by so-called non-heart beating donors - but guess what? That's a hoax too! Both types are on ventilators as their parts are removed for hours. Check out Norm Barber's information about harvesting of organs http://www.geocities.com/organdonate/harvesttime.html Or read his entire site. If people were truly dead when removal started, there would not be any controversy - but here we are 40 years later and its more sickening than ever.
16

Neil,

Glasgow 06/07/2008 17:47:20
They can always buy more.

If the entire British media can decide to censor the news that NATO policemen (as the KLA are called) kidnapped 300-1,300 teens & dissected them while still alive so that they could sell their body parts to our NHS among others then there will obviously be no problem with doing it again.

And again.
17

grandmaof12,

Fleming Island 06/07/2008 21:10:09
I think that the family of the would be donors are very selfish people, what is your loved going to do with there organs they are dead, and they wanted to help other, but your selfish motives stopped that.
18

Kitti Kat,

Newtown Square 06/07/2008 21:26:14
Number 17 has said it all. I hope that when I go my wishes will be honored.
19

EMR,

Berkeley 07/07/2008 04:46:15
Only people who sign up to donate their organs should be eligible to receive the organs of other donors. That would soon increase the rate of registered donors.
20

Friar Tuck,

Port Perry, Ontario, Canada 07/07/2008 20:45:34
Further to #11 - TimW1234,Ottawa, Canada.

Here in Ontario, you can sign as many consent forms as you want, but, as soon as you are dead, your next-of-kin is in charge and your consent forms don't mean a thing. I am going to put a clause in my will stating that anyone who overrules my wishes regarding transplants, will be cut out of the will.
21

forbietwo,

UK 09/07/2008 10:50:14
Please note - number 17..grandmaof 12 and all you other do-gooders out there - YOU ARE NOT DEAD WHEN YOUR ORGANS ARE CUT FROM YOUR BODY. As a stiff cold dead person neither you or your useless cold dead organs will be of any value which is why the receiver/s of the organ/s has to be lined up ready in hospital before the organs are removed from the person whose heart is still pumping oxygen into said organ and then the organ/s is/are rushed like mad to the receiver/s before the expiry time. Many people have woken up from a 'braindead' state at the point of being carved up - without being anesthetised first as that would damage your organ- but you wont hear of these cases unless you research it or actually know a person it happened to.After that happens, rest assured, all family and friends change their minds about being organ donors or letting their loved ones get carved up because there's no way of letting anybody know they are still 'in there' but unable to speak or twitch an eyelid. Get a life people....your being conned by the modern Burke & Hares of this world. How many of those surgeons have signed a donor card...do your research!!
22

Inverie,

Toronto & Fife 09/07/2008 13:07:31
I bet if the state offered to pay for the funerals of anyone who donated they'd be crammed with offers, rather than presuming consent. More relatives worry about those costs than they do whether a few bits and pieces are missing. Once I'm dead, they can take anything they want: and, yes, I have signed the consent that in Ontario goes in when you renew your driver's license.
23

Inverie,

Toronto & Fife 09/07/2008 13:09:10
#21. So you'd rather wake up from your brain-dead state in your casket six feet under?

 

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