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The strange tale of Labour and the missing candidate



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Published Date: 06 July 2008
AS THE members of Glasgow East Labour party filed into Tollcross Leisure Centre at 7pm on Friday, they were expecting a relatively short meeting.


Local man George Ryan, a burly councillor with a typically quick Glaswegian sense of humour, was about to be rubber-stamped as the party's Westminster candidate.

So sure did the decision appear, party activists on the stump that day had alrea
dy told locals he was the prospective MP. But this being the Labour party in 2008, everything was about to fall to pieces.

Instead of accepting his candidacy, Ryan was at home, agonising over his future. And Prime Minister Gordon Brown was about to be plunged into the latest crisis to afflict his hapless Scottish party.

The word that something was wrong came just after seven, when Ryan called the party's central office. "It was a bit unclear, but he basically said he wanted out," said one senior source. The local party members decided to give him another hour. Calls were frantically made in an attempt to persuade him to stay. But Ryan wasn't for budging.

Ten-year-old allegations about housing benefit claims – over which he has been exonerated – were about to resurface and Ryan didn't want to put his family through it.

At the same time on the previous Friday, Labour's bush telegraph had been convulsed by rumours that Wendy Alexander was quitting the top job in Scotland and that the Glasgow East MP David Marshall, one of the party's longest serving members, was resigning. The nomination meeting at Tollcross was supposed to act as part of the closure to that double shock. Instead, the increasingly surreal soap opera that is the modern-day Scottish Labour party was about to take another turn.

In a statement released yesterday, Ryan said: "It is with regret that I have today removed my name from the shortlist of potential candidates. In the last 24 hours, I have come to recognise the pressures that this campaign would put on my family life, and I have taken the decision to put my family first.

"I hope people understand and respect my decision. Of course, I wish whoever is selected to represent Labour in the East End every success. I will campaign for them."

Ryan's decision caused shock waves in Glasgow and beyond. As with Alexander, there was both sympathy and anger that he had quit over what party chiefs insist are spurious allegations. "He has dropped the party in it," said one source. Others point out that the stress such stories inflict on family life is often ignored. "It's all very well for people in the game to take a hit, but for the partners, it's really hard to take," said another.

But as Friday night drew on, feelings for Ryan had to be put to one side. At the party's John Smith House HQ, campaign manager and Scotland Office minister David Cairns was tearing his hair out.

Earlier, he had been talking up Labour's prospects in the seat. Despite the party's plummeting fortunes since then, the first signs were looking good, suggesting the vote was holding steady. Cairns was preparing to head to the constituency on Saturday for the official launch – alongside Ryan.

And now this. Labour faced going into the first weekend of campaigning without a candidate, in an election that could force the Prime Minister to resign. The pressure was on: find someone.

Scotland on Sunday understands that allies of Brown turned to Ryan's close friend and immediate boss, Steven Purcell. The 35-year-old leader of Glasgow City Council has gradually been gaining a reputation as one of the party's rising stars, a reputation cemented last year when he led Glasgow's successful bid for the 2014 Commonwealth Games.

Purcell's increasing popularity in Glasgow over the past year has been one bright note in a miserable time for the Scottish party. Brown now wanted to buy into some of that stardust.

Purcell had spent much of Friday fending off claims that he was preparing to make a stand in the seat. The blogosphere had picked up rumours that Brown had called Purcell no fewer than four times the previous weekend, urging him to stand.

Purcell insisted the story was unfounded and repeated that he didn't want the seat. But with Ryan out of the picture – and Labour's campaign in free fall before it had even begun – he began to feel the heat. Colleagues say the calls carried on until 3am yesterday, with Brown, if not in person then certainly in spirit, pressing him to come to the party's aid.

As Scotland woke yesterday, the chaos continued. Purcell and his allies dug in their heels. "Why would he want to quit real power just to sit on the backbenches?" said one source.

And then the idea of Margaret Curran emerged – from the Glasgow party, not No 10, it is understood. The selection of the MSP for Glasgow Baillieston had an added attraction. Until yesterday, she was facing being bumped out of Holyrood due to boundary changes.

So, assuming she turns up, Curran will be among three candidates up for selection tomorrow night. And should she be chosen, Labour insiders were last night suggesting that they may well have turned accidently upon the right candidate. Curran is popular among Labour voters in the East End and Labour remains confident it can win the seat on July 24.





The full article contains 908 words and appears in Scotland On Sunday newspaper.
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druidh,

edinburgh 06/07/2008 00:06:32
Ha ha ha ha ha.

I can't wait to hear the backtracking on one persons ability to be both MP and MSP...
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Teary Ennui,

06/07/2008 00:11:57
Unless that person resigns as an MSP of course.
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Al Ford,

Insch 06/07/2008 00:41:55
The following report from allmediascotland.com (http://www.allmediascotland.com/media_releases/2952/eleven_glasgow_labour_councillors_under_investigation)has just come to my attention. It appears to shed light on the withdrawal of Councillor Ryan from the Labour candidate-selection procedure for the by-election at Glasgow East and the apparent unwillingness of Councillor Purcell to take his place.

"Eleven Labour Glasgow City Councillors, including Councillor George Ryan, who last night suddenly pulled out of the contest to represent Labour in the crucial Glasgow East by-election, were reported to the Standards (Commission) on 18 June 2008 in connection with a controversial land deal in the city centre.

"The complaint surrounded their conduct in relation to the controversial attempt to close down the 150 year old Paddy's Market in the city and obtain land on which the market is currently located.

"The complaint which was submitted to the Standards Commission of Scotland by a representative of Paddy's Market traders claimed that Councillor Ryan misled the council in a report he presented to the council's Executive Committee which recommended the council purchase the head lease of the land where the market is situated and for the historic Paddy's Market to be closed down.

"The report which was presented by Councillor Ryan at a meeting on 20 March 2008, and subsequently led to the council's endorsement of its recommendations, stated that the owners of the land had agreed to provide the lease at a reduced rate to the Council. However, the forty page complaint document submitted to the Standards Commission included information that clearly indicated that no such deal had been made with the council.

"Councillor Ryan also faces investigation for other breaches of the Code of Conduct in relation to this matter along with ten other high profile Glasgow City Council Labour councillors including the Council leader, Steven Purcell.

"Paddy's Market represen
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Al Ford,

Insch 06/07/2008 00:42:27
"Paddy's Market representative, Brian Daly said:
"This market has been here for over 150 years, and my family has been trading here for three generations. The Labour councillors who are intent on closing us down have failed in their responsibilities as elected members to engage with us at any time in relation to this. They have, instead, chosen to make backroom decisions and bulldozer them through without any regard for the democratic process.
"The whole affair has been one of misrepresentation of the facts to the public, the media and to the council itself. We live in a democratic society yet, some of those who we trust to carry out duties on our behalf have chosen to make decisions and disregard the wishes of the electorate.
"Labour councillors refused to share vital information with other elected members from other political parties who also represent this area or include them in the vital stages of the decision making process. Instead there has been a sustained approach by some Labour councillors and council officials to make unsupported claims both in council and through the media locally in an attempt to gain public and council support for their project.
"Elected members who behave in such a way should and must be held fully accountable for their actions, and whilst it would be inappropriate for me to pre-empt the findings of the Standard Commission investigation, I believe the evidence against those Councillors involved is pretty damning. We won’t put up with the bully boy tactics of the council any longer. We very much look forward to the outcome of the investigation."

"(...) The other ten Labour councillors (who) have been reported to the Standards Commission are: Councillor Steven Purcell, Council Leader

Councillor James Coleman, Deputy Leader of the Council

Councillor Aileen Colleran, Council Business Manager Councillor

Stephen Curran, City Treasurer

Bailie Gordon Matheson, local councillor for Paddy’s Market Bailie Hanzala Malik
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Al Ford,

Insch 06/07/2008 00:42:56
Councillor Stephen Doran Councillor Archie Graham Councillor Ruth Simpson Councillor Shaukat Butt

"The Code of Conduct for Councillors forms part of the Ethical Standards in Public Life etc. (Scotland) Act 2000

"Paddy's Market traders have submitted an alternative proposal to the landowners which, if accepted, would see them take over the head lease and to operate the facility on a community based co-operative system or trust. The Paddy's proposal details how they will regenerate the area whilst maintaining the current market community. It also places a strong emphasis on community involvement and social inclusion plans which would ensure that it continued to assist people from all walks of life."

As I have no personal knowledge of this matter, I shall refrain from commenting on it, save to say that it would appear that Labour's troubles concerning this ill-fated by-election of theirs appear to be about to reach a whole new level of political damage for them. At least the issue is a local one, and they did want to discuss local issues in this election. Did they not?
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Senga Jean,

06/07/2008 00:47:05
Labour are a disgrace and to think I once thought they were the defenders of the working class. The SNP will get my vote.
9

Schot,

06/07/2008 00:50:29
There isn't a single Labour party supporter in the East End willing to stand ?

Just parachute in Margaret Curran then.
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CandymanVXR,

06/07/2008 00:55:49















Saor Alba :)
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Jock Fox,

06/07/2008 01:05:53
C4ndym4n,

Get treatment.

Or change the record.
13

Dougie Douglas,

Brisbane 06/07/2008 02:40:59
Yip - Candy man - get help. AM2 for all the nonsense he spouted was genuine, I can't recall him being abusive either. There is no place in these forums for you posting the sort of nonsense you repeatedly do. YAWN.
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Dougie Douglas,

Brisbane 06/07/2008 02:46:02
It really is quite an extraordinary comment on the depletion of talent in Labour's ranks that they are considering Curran.

Is there nobody else in the East of Glasgow to consider?

Nobody else in Glasgow?

Nobody else in West Scotland?

Nobody else in Scotland?

The tank is running dry, running of the smell of an oily rag as they would say around here.
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Traquir , Alba,

06/07/2008 03:51:36
Now their are 500,000 new reasons why
Glasgow East should not vote Labour again.

From the Mail On Sunday we have a story on
the recently resigned for "ill health" Glasgow
East MP David Marshall. Interesting it is
not a top head line in the leading Scottish
newspapers :)

"Labour MP spent £500,000 of taxpayers' money running office from home staffed by wife"

"But Mr Marshall's office was in his semi-detached Glasgow home and he employed his wife Tina as his secretary"

"Party sources said he felt 'under pressure' over the expenses allegations. "

Yep - it is called guilt. Let's have
Margaret Curran start her campaign
by critizing this parastic
behaviour in the strongest terms.

see - tinyurl.com/6j7m48

Whilst Labour has spent 50 years turning
areas of Scotland into abject poverty and
life spans less that war zones like the
Gaza Strip, the Labour comrades have
fed fully from the
trough like pigs. Recently they had a chance to redeem themselves and cutoff some
of one their obscene
troughs, but no instead they vote against
a crackdown on their controversial London expenses so their John Lewis trough
remains open.
~45% of Scottish Labour MPS voted
to keep the trough,
0% of SNP MPs voted to keep it.

see - tinyurl.com/5eaofu

Sleaze and corruption are endemic in
the Labour party especially in Scotland
after decades in power.
They need to be wiped off the face of the Scottish political landscape for what
they have done and are still doing to Scotland. Perhaps like David
Marshall some more of them will start
feeling the guilt and shame- but I doubt it.
They simply need to be kicked out and Glasgow
East will be a good start.

Saor Alba
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Greenhilljohn,

Glasgow 06/07/2008 04:43:03
The way GCC have handled the Paddys Market issue shows how moraly bankrupt they are. They put in homeless/addict hostels nearby then scapegoat Paddys for the inevitible problems.
Did they propose to close down Victoria Road when there were problems due to a local hostel ?
The conduct of the Evening Times has been equally disingenuous.The reporting in that rag has been thouroughly manipulative.That paper has about as much credibility as the Labour Party.
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Richardinho,

06/07/2008 06:22:04
I'd like to know why allegations of benefits fraud are an issue if you're an MP, but strangely not if you're a Glasgow councilor?
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steve 1511,

aberdeen 06/07/2008 07:40:59
coruption at every level off liebour party
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Pocket Dictionary,

06/07/2008 07:55:22
Is the SNP's proposal to release a load of prisoners early not a vote winner for the East End by-election?
20

Joe Macdelta.,

06/07/2008 08:15:21
The mans quite right, would you get in a car if you knew it was going to crash.
21

Jimmy the Pie,

06/07/2008 08:22:23
I wonder if the 200 members of the New Labour Sleaze and Corruption in Glasgow East fully realise that when their beloved party goes bankrupt(which won't be long!), they will be held, individually, financially accountable for all debts.

As the Sleaze Party will have no assets, then the members will have to share the burden. All your possessions sold at auction!!!

Of course you could always ask David Marshall (ex mP) for a sub. He seems to have done very well from being an MP.

All union members should opt out of the political levy right away, and cut as much of New Labour Sleaze income as possible.

I'll have financial details of some MP's expense claims this week.

You'll all be the first to know!! ;-)


Join the SNP @ www.snp.org

The ONLY party for ALL the people of Scotland
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Jimmy the Pie,

06/07/2008 08:24:56
Does anyone know the details of the scandal involving Falkirk Council and a land fraud????


I remember Falkirk when Provest Marshall ran the show like it was his own toy.

Corrupt and self serving
23

Richard Taylor,

Aberdeen 06/07/2008 10:13:41
I hope the people of east Glasgow are reading & are aware of all this.

How bad does it have to get before they realise a vote for Liebore is a totally wasted effort.
24

wimjimg,

Glasgow 06/07/2008 10:39:14
What About Bob?

The SNP have their own problems with regard to the Glasgow East constituency, namely Bob. Bob knows things he should be sharing with the people of Glasgow East and the wider community, but for reasons only known to himself he fails to do so.

Could it be self-preservation and the possibility of yet another by-election in Glasgow? Could it be he carried out his political campaigning from his classroom office, while he had a class and in non-contact time? Could it be his EIS connection is an embarrassment?

He needs to come forth and tell the truth, despite the personal and political costs, before other vulnerable boys with emotional and behavioral difficulties slip through the chasms and end up in secure units, young offenders institutions, adult prisons, or sadly for too many already, the obituary columns.

Incidentally, how can a special school, with no qualified mathematics teacher function properly for nearly 2 years? Come on Bob, the boys deserve much better than this, AND YOU KNOW IT !!!
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Mikko,

Drumnadrochit 06/07/2008 10:41:10
A Labour friend said to me recently that they really aren't bothered about East Glasgow, "those idiots would vote for a red balloon on a stick if it was the Labour candidate."
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Paisley Bear,

06/07/2008 11:23:04
Corruption and bigotry are endemic within west central Scotland's Labour heirarchy. Ryan and Purcell are sectarian charlatans of thye highest order I'm afraid.

It's now so bad that the City Chambers are called Sinn Fein HQ by Glaswegians. What an utter disgrace that our largest city is controlled by crooks, thiefs and bigots from top to bottom.

Vote the b*ggers out and get good, honest people in power.
27

Rednose Harry,

Wallasey 06/07/2008 11:39:46
John Lewis' profits are taking a hit according to reports this week.
Does this explain the vote to retain the "John Lewis List" by our elected "representatives" at Westminster?
At least John Lewis will survive the "slowdown" unlike your local,Newsagent,Post Office,Butcher etc.,etc.,etc.
28

PMK,

Ayrshire 06/07/2008 11:56:22
As briefly mentioned above, the real reason Curran is taking this of course is that her Baillieston constituency will disappear in the constituency boundary review: and she wont be able to compete with Frank McAveety for the resultant successor seat. Also, Glasgow East is a lot stronger Labour territory, than just her Baillieston section now which is significantly weakened (partially thanks to her presence, of course).
29

Eddie,

Edinburgh 06/07/2008 12:26:53
It seems that everyone here wants Labour out, but why is it automatic that SNP should benefit?
A lot of SNP supporters and activists are no different from Labour - they came from the same starting point.

Think for a moment - what do you really have against the Conservatives other than an inbuilt aversion, based on what your Dad said? "Eton toffs" and such descriptions are no longer valid - just have a look at the Labour cabinet, and the background they come from.

Tony Blair won from the conservatives by using the phrase "its time for a change". Well, my God, it's time for a change again, and any criticism of the Conservative Party in 1997 can now be applied to the Labour party - tenfold.

I've asked people why they just will not entertain voting Conservative, and they really do not have an answer - they can only refer to 'tradition' and 'we always have done'. Well, you only reap what you sow.
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The Spook in Leith,

06/07/2008 12:29:23
Nothing strange, just labour at it again. Why do people in Glasgow vote for corruption ?
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Rednose Harry,

Wallasey 06/07/2008 13:07:58
#31 Tony Blair won because he stole the Tories clothes.Brown's cabinet is full of Tories pretending to be Labour.Harman,Balls,Cooper(aka Balls),Flint,Smith,Blears,etc.
You could be right on "time for a change"but will it be for the better?
Frank Field seems to me to be one of the few truly "in touch"socialist MP's at Westminster and he has been sidelined for telling it as it is.

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Neil,

Glasgow 06/07/2008 13:19:37
I presume when they say he was on a shortlist they mean he was the shortlist otherwise the other one would have got it.

It looks like standing for the 6th safest Labour seat in the country is a poisoned chalice nobody wants.
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06/07/2008 13:24:44
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06/07/2008 13:25:04
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b.allan,

alba 06/07/2008 14:02:24
31 You ask what people have against the conservatives? For me it's the poll tax and the social, political and financial damage maggie thatcher's government did to scotland.

Liebour have proven themselves to be no better. The SNP seems to be the only party standing up for Scotland's interests.
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PMK,

Ayrshire 06/07/2008 14:08:19
#31 - The Tories wont benefit from Labour's unpopularity in Easterhouse, Baillieston and Shettleston. Maybe in the old Edinburgh Pentlands area + Dumfries and possibly Ayr - but not in Glasgow's East End.
38

Neil,

Glasgow 06/07/2008 15:48:22
"that he had quit over what party chiefs insist are spurious allegations"

Inexplicable eh?
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Jock Tamson,

Scotland, Caledonia, Alba 06/07/2008 15:59:06
Freedom for Scotland, you dirty sod, here's the link;

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Hall-Infamy-Amanita-Virosa/dp/1901388182/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1215356149&sr=1-1
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JoeMcT,

BlairsFantasyIsland 06/07/2008 16:00:16
Could any Labour supporter possibly tell me anything positive that Labour has done for the east end of Glasgow in the last 40 years?

I grew up there and it has actually got worse in the last 15/20 years.
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Red Etin,

06/07/2008 16:03:31
"allies of Brown turned to Ryan's close friend and immediate boss, Steven Purcell."

Is this some kind of old pals act?
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Red Etin,

06/07/2008 16:08:21
#42 JoeMcT

You're right enough Joe. I lived in Shettleston, then worked there in the 70s. The toon never saw any improvement under Labour. However 13000 is a big majority to turn over. One thing for sure. The next London government will be Tory so it'll be years of opposition for Labour. A Labour victory won't help the people of the east end.
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Jock Tamson,

Scotland, Caledonia, Alba 06/07/2008 17:27:39
Sorry, Freedom, couldn't resist it.
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Iain's,

06/07/2008 17:45:16
The facts of the case are that Labour has always taken its faithful suporters for granted.
They consistently vote for Labour and get nothing in return.

Is it people in poor areas that vote Labour or is it the areas that vote labour are poor?

It is both. If you were not sheep, you would not be shorn.

Vote anything else and give them a real fright!
The fear of you doing so has already made them give you a better candidate.
Just think what throwing them out would do!


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HEN BROON 5,

ALBA being held back by the UK 06/07/2008 18:22:51
http://tinyurl.com/6nydg7

Paddy’s Market representative, Brian Daly said:
“This market has been here for over 150 years, and my family has been trading here for three generations. The Labour councillors who are intent on closing us down have failed in their responsibilities as elected members to engage with us at any time in relation to this. They have, instead, chosen to make backroom decisions and bulldozer them through without any regard for the democratic process.




“The whole affair has been one of misrepresentation of the facts to the public, the media and to the council itself. We live in a democratic society yet, some of those who we trust to carry out duties on our behalf have chosen to make decisions and disregard the wishes of the electorate.




“Labour councillors refused to share vital information with other elected members from other political parties who also represent this area or include them in the vital stages of the decision making process. Instead there has been a sustained approach by some Labour councillors and council officials to make unsupported claims both in council and through the media locally in an attempt to gain public and council support for their project.



“Elected members who behave in such a way should and must be held fully accountable for their actions, and whilst it would be inappropriate for me to pre-empt the findings of the Standard Commission investigation, I believe the evidence against those Councillors involved is pretty damning. We won’t put up with the bully boy tactics of the council any longer. We very much look forward to the outcome of the investigation.”


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HEN BROON 5,

ALBA being held back by the UK 06/07/2008 18:23:34
http://tinyurl.com/6nydg7


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Eleven Glasgow Labour Councillors Under Investigation
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05/07/2008
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Eleven Labour Glasgow City Councillors, including Councillor George Ryan, who last night suddenly pulled out of the contest to represent Labour in the crucial Glasgow East by-election, were reported to the Standards on 18 June 2008 in connection with a controversial land deal in the city centre.




The complaint surrounded their conduct in relation to the controversial attempt to close down the 150 year old Paddy’s Market in the city and obtain land on which the market is currently located.




The complaint which was submitted to the Standards Commission of Scotland by a representative of Paddy’s Market traders claimed that Councillor Ryan misled the council in a report he presented to the council’s Executive Committee which recommended the council purchase the head lease of the land where the market is situated and for the historic Paddy’s Market to be closed down.




The report which was presented by Councillor Ryan at a meeting on 20 March 2008, and subsequently led to the council’s endorsement of its recommendations, stated that the owners of the land had agreed to provide the lease at a reduced rate to the Council. However, the forty page complaint document submitted to the Standards Commission included information that clearly indicated that no such deal had been made with the council.
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HEN BROON 5,

ALBA being held back by the UK 06/07/2008 18:24:18
For further information please contact Caroline Weintz – Fan Hitter PR on: 07717 326 919 or by email at caroline@fan-hitter.co.uk

Editors’ Notes

The other ten Labour councillors have been reported to the Standards Commission are: Councillor Steven Purcell – Council Leader

Councillor James Coleman – Deputy Leader of the Council

Councillor Aileen Colleran – Council Business Manager Councillor

Stephen Curran – City Treasurer

Bailie Gordon Matheson – local councillor for Paddy’s Market Bailie Hanzala Malik

Councillor Stephen Doran Councillor Archie Graham Councillor Ruth Simpson Councillor Shaukat Butt

The Code of Conduct for Councillors forms part of the Ethical Standards in Public Life etc. (Scotland) Act 2000

Paddy’s Market traders have submitted an alternative proposal to the landowners which, if accepted, would see them take over the head lease and to operate the facility on a community based co-operative system or trust. The Paddy’s proposal details how they will regenerate the area whilst maintaining the current market community. It also places a strong emphasis on community involvement and social inclusion plans which would ensure that it continued to assist people from all walks of life.
Contact: Caroline Weintz
Phone: 07717 326 919
Email: caroline@fan-hitter.co.uk
Website: http://www.fan-hitter.co.uk
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Eddie,

Edinburgh 06/07/2008 20:05:36
No 38 - ""You ask what people have against the conservatives? For me it's the poll tax and the social, political and financial damage maggie thatcher's government did to scotland""

Let me ask you what was wrong about the poll tax?
The Community Charge was the fairest, most targeted way of raising local funds for local services. Most of the blind sheep who demonstrated against it would have paid little or nothing anyway. People listened to the likes of Tommy Sheridan who told them it was an attack on poor people, and they believed it, because they could not be arxed to find out about it for themselves. And it was not the government per se which 'inflicted' it on Scotland a year early to test it, it was COSLA in Scotland who were due to conduct a nationwide revaluation in connection with the Rates who decided it would save a lot of money by switching early.

Social, political and financial damage? Can you tell me what sort of goverment could not have progressed down the road of change? Did you think it was a good idea for the miners to run the country? The spending was out of control and the party in power had to do something. The fact that a swathe of people across the country lost their easy, laid back, state-financed molycoddled way of life just happened to coincide with the introduction of the poll tax was what has led many people to automatically blame everything on the Tories. If you think for a moment that any shade of Labour goverment would not have had to introduce these 'social, political and financial' changes, then you have a very tenuous grip on reality.

SNP standing up for Scotland's interests? Aye right. How many broken promises so far? Independence? God save us all!
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Scotindy,

Los Angeles 06/07/2008 21:43:11
Glasgow East has the unpresedented opportunity to kick the labour party CROOKS into touch and move SCOTLAND further forward to becoming an HONEST CLEAN INDEPENDENT COUNRTY AGAIN. Bring it on!!!!
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Rednose Harry,

Wallasey 06/07/2008 22:01:03
#42 While their about it could they tell us what the Martin's have done for Springburn??
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Calum Crubag,

06/07/2008 22:28:28
Time for Labour to put up the monkey with a red rosette for the Labour drones to vote for.
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morris,

edinburgh 06/07/2008 22:51:48
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Rednose Harry,Wallasey

Like most Labour party supporters you seem to have missed a very significant fact of life.

LABOUR are out of office at the next election and will remain so for a number of years.Your own countrymen guarantee this!
It's possible that the scale of their defeat in Southern England will be so high that they return a similar number of seats to the Liberal Democrats,and if that happens they will cease to be the alternative to the Tory party.

North East England may think backing a lame horse with three legs is a sensible move. That is your choice to make.

Most of SCOTLAND does not.The question is how many from Glasgow East will vote New Labour ,when its clear that they have absolutely no chance and therefore no idea why !
It has been believed for many years now that some parts of Scotland (and the North East)would elect a woolen monkey if it wore a red rosette.The question is how many will declare the ultimate numptiness and still vote for it when a Tory governmnet is guaranteed unless Scotland votes SNP!
Those are the facts.Most Glaswegians can understand Brown and Labour are dead now. The honourable thing to do is bury the Labour Party and unite until we are independent.Then we can build again!
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Iainbroch,

Moray 08/07/2008 00:01:21
re 55

Burp!!!! Wanting to do my bit to reduce the price of food as it is clearly the fault of us oinks that it is so high so I just ate the red monkey and was careful not to waste any of it. Burp!!!

Oh darn there goes another one!and another one and another one! Crikey how many of them are there?
I wonder if we could get them on the menu at the next G8 irrelevancy?
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Alberto.,

20/07/2008 13:38:54
Many times it is mentioned about the number of Councillors / Politicians - whoever, are under investigation by, again whoever, in their well controlled little set, yet means not a jot, either Politically or legally - as the whole system seems very corrupt from top to bottom!

The Politicos appear to have all 'those that matter' -
and are able to do anything about stopping the rot, well and truly deep seated in their pockets, all very knowingly 'on which side their bread is buttered!'

Wrogdoing by members of the Political set, while it may - for show,be frowned upon publicly - it appears to be a quite acceptable 'par for the course' situaion in the 'game!' and they nedd have no worries over such matters - even if found out, which seems very unklikely from the results od fairly recent events!

Alexander, Hain, Martin and Conway spring to mind immediately!!


 

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