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Watchdog questions Government grant to Islamic group with SNP link



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Published Date: 24 August 2008
THE Scottish Government's decision to award more than £400,000 to an Islamic group run by an SNP activist was last night branded "unusual" by a senior figure in the body which oversees voluntary groups.
Stephen Maxwell, a director of the Scottish Council for Voluntary Organisations (SCVO), said First Minister Alex Salmond had been exposed to attack because of the presence of SNP activists in the group.

And Maxwell – himself a senior SNP figure –
suggested the grants should have been postponed until legal formalities at the Scottish Islamic Foundation (SIF) had been completed.

Opposition MSPs are now demanding an independent inquiry and are calling on Salmond to publish all the correspondence and documentation behind the funding deal.

The newly-formed SIF is currently being run by Osama Saeed, the SNP's parliamentary candidate for the Glasgow Central constituency. The organisation's board also includes SNP activists and members of Saeed's family. Documents creating the group as a company were signed in the SNP's headquarters in Glasgow.

In March, the SNP handed the body £215,000, most of which will be spent on promoting an "IslamFest" event next year, to be run by the SIF.

A further £190,000 was awarded earlier this month from the Government-run Race, Religion and Refugee Integration Fund (RRRI) which supports organisations that assist ethnic minority communities.

Writing in Third Force News, the in-house paper of the SCVO, Maxwell, an associate director of the body, says: "The grant of significant sums of public money to an apparently unincorporated association is unusual, to say the least. Could the launch of the foundation not have been postponed until the legal formalities were complete?"

Salmond has faced criticism from other members of the Muslim community, who claim that the generous awards to SIF were due to "political favouritism".

But there are also questions surfacing about SIF's application. An assessment of the 33 organisations that received RRRI funding shows that it was the only organisation which was neither a company nor a charity at the time of applying for funds.

Applications for RRRI money had to be with assessors by April 14 this year. The SIF was finally incorporated as a company on May 23.

In a statement, the SIF insisted that the group's books had been in order when it made the application to the assessors of the RRRI fund, the Voluntary Action Fund (VAF).

Labour MSP Frank McAveety said: "Every week brings new and troubling details about the unorthodox funding given to the SIF. We are coming up for two months since parliamentary questions were first asked about this and we have so far had no answers. This is an uncharacteristic silence from Mr Salmond and his crowd."

A Scottish Government source said: "There have been a number of parliamentary questions tabled which will be answered comprehensively and will demonstrate that all funding decisions were properly made.

"Unfortunately, the article by Stephen Maxwell is based on press reports which contain inaccurate information."





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  • Last Updated: 24 August 2008 1:07 AM
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1

Fanling,

Switzerland 24/08/2008 01:39:34
Bad vibes. Salmond is treading thin ice here. That this so-called SIF (or any other significant alien political interest body) was awarded £215,000, is sinister and unpalatable to the indigenous body. Salmond is alienating his core voter constituency. How bloody stupid is that?

I speak as a (waveringly former) supporter of Alex Salmond's party. He alone is disenfranchising the likes of me and mine by this stupidity. Salmond should listen to his Scottish non-religiously-aligned supporters first and foremost. To do otherwise is to bow before the flag of political correctness in the search for votes. Listen up, Salmond. We were here first. Stop playing the "marginal" crowd. If you are good enough, they will vote for you, but stop treating us indigenous lot as fools.

I'd love to hear the honest opinions of his government colleagues on this topic, but doubt we will.
2

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24/08/2008 01:43:59
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Fifi la Bonbon,

24/08/2008 01:49:24
Stephen Maxwell is someone who has great credibility throughout Scottish civil life as well as being one of the pillars of the SNP - he was in the 79 group along with Salmond. If he is saying there's a problem, there really is a problem.

A new aspect to the story is the claim that family members of SNP candidate Osama Saeed are among the beneficiaries of the £400,000 from the SNP Scottish Government to the Scottish Islamic Foundation. If it's true, it is news - well, I'd never heard it before. This is a really dodgy deal, and the Scottish Parliament needs to call the whole deal in and make sure that the taxpayers, as opposed to the SNP and its associates, are getting best value.
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24/08/2008 01:57:40
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Fifi la Bonbon,

24/08/2008 02:03:31
A quick look at their website suggests that the Scottish Islamic Foundation is not incorporated as a company, and that it is not a charity. If true, this means that the taxpayer's money has been handed over directly to a "board" which is in reality an unincorporated group of individuals, some of who are reportedly related to the prime mover and SNP candidate, Mr Saeed. Apparently no other beneficiary of this fund lacks the structure of a company or the status of a charity. And they've clearly got a chequebook to pay the rent on their posh offices in Royal Exchange Square.

The Scottish Islamic Foundation website was updated only up to last week so maybe they're in the clear now.

The SNP has gone crazy, or they just don't care and they think they can get away with it. If the Scottish Parliament doesn't act they will get away with it.

Thank goodness for a free press that reports what the government doesn't want us to know.
6

a proud doonhamer,

Dumfries 24/08/2008 02:18:10
4 BNP troll

You stated in your post,

"By the way, this "daft cnunt" you refer to is Scottish and proud to be. But ashamed of t!ts like you, who are sadly all apparent on these threads. Muslim eh ...?"

Your last two words say all that needs to said to expose you as the BNP troll de jour.

Begone fool.


7

Canadian Jambo,

24/08/2008 02:24:52
The whole deal stinks. Mind you, Mr Salmond did warn us some time ago the he was 'empathetic' to faith-based Muslim schools. Can't say he didn't warn us.
8

Willie Macleod,

Wick 24/08/2008 04:42:14
This will be investigated but no party or anyone should try to rush to judgement on a newspaper story
9

jarmon,

24/08/2008 05:15:14
Someone please educate this american(can't help if i was born here and not there)-is the sif muslims mostly foreign born,or were most of them born in scotland?Thanks.
10

The Daleks,

Longmen 24/08/2008 06:07:22
Bad move Alex. Very bad move.

All of our public services are under financial pressure, yet our leaders continue to throw money around when it comes to ethnic minority groups/PC propaganda groups.

The taxpayer's money should be spent addressing the needs of those it is collected from, not spent funding unrepresentative groups who would seek to undermine our ancient identity and way of life.
11

Eric D,

Strathclye 24/08/2008 06:26:43
I myself ever the pragmatist feel this one is stretching allegiance a bit far. This body is NOT a charity and it's leader has very controversial views. At a time when Scots pensioners are dying because they can't afford to heat themselves I find it astonishing that the Government can find money to fund such an insidious body, and even more worried this group is included in the Nuclear Deterent committee set up by the Parliament.

No 9 : Tough question, but typically half the Muslims living here are born abroad. The leader Sayeed is a member of the MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD.

Mr Salmond this a vote loser , think again your boundless naivette.
12

Zorbathejock,

Paphos 24/08/2008 07:18:26
I have been an SNP supporter since the early 60's and until we get independence I always will be.I'll have to think a bigger picture after that, but I think this deal shows naivete.It was probably done with the best intentions but should have been thought through more.
13

Rulesbutnotrulers,

Federation, not separation 24/08/2008 07:29:55
You can judge a politician and party by the company they keep. SNP seems to favour Islaamist causes. I wonder why? Alarm bells must surely ring loud and clear as Captain Shrek sets sail towards this destination.
14

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24/08/2008 07:33:09
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24/08/2008 07:35:28
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Hugo of Garven,

24/08/2008 07:37:54
" . . based on press reports which contain inaccurate information."

Press reports such as this one?

The headline states 'Watchdog questions . " This turns out to one member saying it is unusual.

Again no evidence for a headline claim.

Another example of 'Don't let the truth get in the way of a good story'.
17

Rulesbutnotrulers,

Federation, not separation 24/08/2008 07:53:40
#16 Joker.

And your point is?
18

walter,

24/08/2008 07:56:40
Stephen Maxwell is nothing but a Labour supporting traitor to Scotland unionist mouth piece.
But then again he is a long serving senior figure in the SNP so it must be biased reporting in this rag of a newspaper and even if it is correct there must be some one else to blame.
19

connaughtboy,

stonehaven 24/08/2008 07:58:17
So this "watchdog" knows more about this subject than Scottish civil servants?

I don't think so.

Non-story.
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24/08/2008 08:08:26
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drunken proffet,

Tassy 24/08/2008 08:12:01
Well by now you should have a few Scots Muslims in the community. It is better that Scots Muslim community takes it upon itself to demystify its religion rather than rely on a gang from Saudi Arabia.
My gran, who was a staunch Presbyterian used to go to the Catholic services at odd times, she reckoned they were more entertaining.
22

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24/08/2008 08:13:00
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tommy M,

24/08/2008 08:22:17
"Free press"? - oh Fifi, don't make me laugh!

24

Garry Otton,

Scottish Media Monitor com 24/08/2008 08:54:30
VOTE SNP: VOTE THEOCRACY! Salmond also promises more funding for sectarian schools, both Catholic and Islamic (Sunni, Sh'ia... we don't know). After winning with £500k from one of Scotland's most notorious religionists, Salmond's gone on to promise Catholic militants he will help them circumvent Parliamentary law to discriminate against gays. The SNP are already in talks with Souter's charity - with a stated aim to promote religion - that's looking at administering electric shock treatment to drug addicts. What a wonderfully devisive, backwater Scotland will be under the SNP. (The Greens are the only major Scottish Party not funding religious privilege).
25

Kyle N Carrick,

24/08/2008 09:01:41
24. Makes you wonder why Salmond voted for an equal age of consent and why the SNP voted for repeal of Section 28/ 2A.

Your rather hysterical and silly post does not tally with reality. Given rising islamophobia, with tensions heightened by the disastrous and illegal Iraq misadventure, promotion of cross-cultural tolerance and understanding is surely sensible.
26

Govanhill,

Govanhill 24/08/2008 09:03:17
"£400,000 to an Islamic group run by an SNP activist was last night branded "unusual" by a senior figure in the body which oversees voluntary groups.......The newly-formed SIF is currently being run by Osama Saeed, the SNP's parliamentary candidate for the Glasgow Central constituency."

We are in trouble in Govanhill. We need urgent funding and help to address some of the pressing issues of integration. How will this help Govanhill???

The people in Govanhill are in despair. What will it take to get the real help we need?


27

Senga Jean,

24/08/2008 09:13:57
Never trust a Scottish newspaper. The truth will make you free!
28

Garry Otton,

Scottish Media Monitor com 24/08/2008 09:19:39
25 Kyle. If you think the SNP were so uniquivocably in support of the repeal of Section 28 you might want to read the real history of this vile moment in Scottish history. The compromises they put forward were blatantly opportunistic. Creating religious division by demolishing our secular nation spells trouble ahead. Is that really so silly?
29

Nebulous,

Aberdeen 24/08/2008 10:16:48
I don't know a lot about this - but I am concerned about what has been reported so far.

Just to correct one comment though at #3 - directors/trustees of voluntary organisations don't benefit from them. Legally they cannot be paid and expenses are closely monitored.

30

FC Barcelona,

24/08/2008 10:16:56
as #26 says, where is the help for the majority of the people living in Govanhill ? Oh I forgot they are not a minority or ethnic group so they can go whistle jinxy for it, bad move SNP !!
31

Freethinker,

Penicuik 24/08/2008 10:42:52
Taxpayers money should not be spent on religious organisations - end of.

Adherents of sectarian, superstitious, and dangerous bodies should fund their own affairs - there are plenty of other worthy causes for my hard-earned to be spent on.

A quick look at the Koran, Bible etc will quickly reveal the true horror and intent of these mind controling, woman hating, sex obsessed, power crazed zealots.

A wee complaint to the Auditor General might not go amiss!
32

Fifi la Bonbon,

24/08/2008 10:44:38
#28, Nebulous, said " Just to correct one comment though at #3 - directors/trustees of voluntary organisations don't benefit from them. Legally they cannot be paid and expenses are closely monitored." That is not correct.

Voluntary organisations incorporated as companies are subject to rules of this kind and the expenses of directors are monitored. Organisations with charitable status are subject to rules of this kind and the expenses of directors are monitored.

Organisations without such status are not subject to rules of this kind and the expenses of directors are not at all monitored.

Can you tall me who would monitor them? The Office For The Regulation Of Organisations Not Subject To Charity Law Or Company Law? Or more likely, Strathclyde Police.

Unincorporated voluntary organisations just are not regulated, or externally audited, which is why we have company law and charity law. They are essentially a group of individuals who have been given a present, and who can do what they like. Possibly they are liable under the civil law of contract, or criminal law of fraud, but possibly not.

If all the other beneficiary groups took the trouble to incorporate and/or obtain charitable status, why not the Scottish-Islamic Foundation? Maybe they are special in some way?

To put it another way. A man comes to your door, saying - "I'm collecting." You say "Oh, isd it for charity?" The man mumbles but doesn't say anything. You get a wee but suspicious and ask again. He says "well, not exactly - but we want the money to do good things" and goes on to pull out a rug and do a prayer. Do you call the police. or not?
33

Fifi la Bonbon,

24/08/2008 10:52:14
#31, Freethinker - you're right.

The SNP will claim that this is perfectly regular, there's nothing wrong with it, nobody's complained, and they're all racists, extremists and islamophobes.

See how poster #2 attacked a SNP supporter no less and accused him or her of being in the BNP just for expressing mild criticism. The dirty tricks are afoot, because even SNP supporters aren't allowed to criticise without being attacked.

People need to complain to ther list and constituency MSPs, and the auditors, and write to the press to say this stinks and it needs looking at again.

Thank goodness for a free press that reports what the government doesn't want us to know.
34

ochone,

Sauchie, clack's 24/08/2008 10:55:17
wonder if there is a by-election due soon?
35

Fifi la Bonbon,

24/08/2008 11:05:10
Garry Otton makes an excellent point. Why or earth is a penny of public money going to religious people?

And why is the money, and the influence, concentrated in the hands of the most reactionary elements - the Muslim Brotherhood, the Roman Catholics, and the Protestant evangelistics like Mister Souter? This is the land of David Hume, and we have surely moved on from 1776 when Thomas Aikenhead was hanged in Edinburgh for saying Christianity was nonsense. There is an undeclared war between our secular Scotland and the religious, and we should be afraid because they are more vicious and experienced in violence and repression than we are.

We need a law - Thomas Aitkenhead's Law? - that says no religious organisation may get a penny of public funds. That should include charitable status, tax relief and rates relief. And they should have to pay for their water bills in full too.

Let God if she exists, or indeed the gods, provide.
36

Independencenoo,

Glasgow 24/08/2008 11:07:10
#8, #19, and #27

A stalwart of the SNP has described the SIP's £405,000 SNP Governent grant as 'unusual'. And some folk say but where is the evidence that this is all improper or not as the case may be?

The reason no hard evidence is currently not in the public domain is because both SIF and the Scottish Government Ministers have delayed or refused to answer calls to make the grant process trail available or answer formal Parliamentary questions.

Here is a wee flavour of what might be 'unusual'.

1. A group of SNP staff, activists and a SNP Prospective Parliamentary candidate meet in January 2008. They have an idea to set up a Scottish organisation to throw a big Islamic Festival. (The cynical among you might say and 'ingratiate' the Muslim vote in Glasgow Central to the benefit of the SIF's CEO as SNP Westminister candidate and Ms Sturgeon?). They have no track record or expertise to talk off (unlike for example other Muslim groups that have run very successful events in Glasgow over the years on shoe string budgets).

2. In March 2008 this 'group' of SNP activists - neither a registered charity, nor a properly incorporated not for profit body at this stage - received £215,000 from the SNP Government. How was this awarded? Was the money open to bids from other groups? Or was it a special funding package and if so why? Who assessed the best value and scored it? Who made the decision? And critically, why do you need £215,000 for a party festival? Most vol orgs have to show some match funding, what did this group have to do?

(3) SIF's blog clearly states it had to have 'countless meetings with civil servants and Ministers'. Really? Name me any other new non-charitable unincorporated group that can get 'countless' meeting with Ministers and civil servants? When were all of these meetings, who was present and what was discussed or promised?

(4) Then on 23 May 2008 SIF finally incorporates but we discover it is awarded an additional £190,0
37

Independencenoo,

Glasgow 24/08/2008 11:08:48
cont/.

(4) Then on 23 May 2008 SIF finally incorporates but we discover it is awarded an additional £190,000 from the RRRI Fund which has actually closed on 14 April. That fund also precluded applications from non-operational groups in Scotland, so how did SIF manage to get £190,000 for 'young Muslim leadership training' from a fund which closed in April when it was not functioning when funding was awarded - it was only launched in June! Special treatment for SNP activists from SNp Ministers - we will only know once all of paper trails are subjected to independent scrutiny.

Since this story broke some months ago the Scottish Government spin doctors have tried to bury it by saying 'it's a non-story'. Well I am afraid as each week goes by it becomes a bigger and bigger story. Readers may wonder which SNP Ministers are intimately involved with these decisions and if the proper rules were not followed what this will mean to their careers and the credibility of the SNP 'Persil White' approach to funding.
38

Govanhill,

24/08/2008 11:13:59
"In March, the SNP handed the body £215,000, most of which will be spent on promoting an "IslamFest" event next year, to be run by the SIF."

I am not sure Govanhill can wait until next March 09 for the "Islamafest" to solve all of the tension and fear we are experiencing in Govanhill on a daily basis.


39

David Nummey,

London 24/08/2008 11:17:35
Clearly all issues regarding public money and funding of community groups need to be handled carefully.And there are a wide range of equally needy organisations and issues in Scotland requiring funds

But I really wonder how many of the comments are based on a good understanding of what Scottish Islamic Foundation is trying to address?

If SIF can achieve the 5 aims noted on their website, I think they will be extremely good value for £400,000.
40

Fifi la Bonbon,

24/08/2008 11:23:31
Fine, David, but not in my name and not with my money. Let the goddess provide - I shouldn't have to.

Anyway whatever the Muslim Brotherhood says, it doesn't mean they'll actually do it. This is a political act to help the SNP get Muslim votes in key constituencies.
41

Gina Gibson,

Wales 24/08/2008 11:37:33
RELIGION IS A BOIL ON THE A RSE OF HUMANITY
42

Govanhill,

24/08/2008 11:40:51
The Communities Minister visited Govanhill in July 08 to experience first hand some of the appalling conditions which now prevail. It was noted that in 3 closes in one street, 14 different languages were spoken. None of them spoke English. We were told that we had to tap into existing funds and resources.
At a public meeting held in Govanhill in July 08, Police, Fire Services, Cleansing and Environmental Health all stated that the inability to communicate is a serious issue which must be addresses if law and order is to be upheld.
It was also reported at that meeting that the Roma Population (estimated at 3,000) did not have their children enrolled in schools. Officials had to admit that they did not have the infrastrcture or resources in place to cope with them even if they were enrolled.
I could give many other examples. The point I am trying to make is that perhaps the £4000,000 given to SIF could have been put to better use.
43

Rulesbutnotrulers,

Federation, not separation 24/08/2008 12:31:15
Have we been shown in close detail just how this money has been/will be spent?
44

danbob,

24/08/2008 15:18:40
41# Wales is a sceptic spot on the a rse of the UK.
45

Gere,

Scotland 24/08/2008 16:50:31
All suicide bombers have been from Britain's Muslim community.

The enemy is within our society. All perpetrators of recent acts of terror and the preparation to committ acts thereof have involved adherents of the Muslim faith most of whom were born and educated in Britain, some for generations! Their hatred of the indigenous white, non Muslim population seems to increase with each new generation born here!

The practise of this inherently anti-white and anti-western theology should not be encouraged in any way.

Sura(8:12) I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them.

This is called the religion of peace and tolerance????
46

Fifi la Bonbon,

24/08/2008 17:00:16
Gere - you are! You are something that has crawled out from under a rock!
47

CurlySue,

24/08/2008 17:10:12
#9 jarmon

What difference would it make where they were born?
48

CurlySue,

24/08/2008 17:27:05
#46 Fifi la Bonbon

What do you mean? Explain please!
49

David Nummey,

London 24/08/2008 17:36:55
#42 Govanhill - I am well aware of the problems in Govanhill, I used to live in Torrisdale St. I agree that Govanhill badly needs extra funding, I just don't agree that it automatically should be removed from SIF. They are a very easy target.

And to #40: there are plenty of other projects funded by the Scottish Government which are closely aligned to Faith Groups - obviously mainly Christian.Do you want all of them to have their funding removed? And yes, it is possible the SIF may not deliver all their intentions - but how many new start organisations can guarantee 100% success? Zero
50

Fifi la Bonbon,

24/08/2008 18:09:14
#48, Curly Sue - in the comments to the previous story "Scots heroine of Auschwitz joins Brown's roll of honour" Gere defends the Gestapo and suggests that they should be given an even break because there is no actual evidence that Jane Haining, the missionary, who was taken away by them to Auschwitz death camp and subsequently died, was murdered by them.

I described Gere, and an overt anti-semite in an earlier post, as people who crawled out from under a rock. The comment by Gere to this story confirmed my initial impression.
51

john z,

edinburgh 24/08/2008 18:10:57
Salmond better watch out, I and others in Scotland, will not vote for ANY party that panders to muslims. Islam is a non democratic religion, that does not afford equal rights to women, and believes those who are not muslim should be killed. Besides you need to be nuts to believe ANY religion nowadays, I mean all of them are just man made mumbo jumbo, used to give control to a select few bishops and clerics.

Was it Lenin who said, 'religion is the opium of the masses'.

Do we want democracy or Theocracy in Scotland??

Mr. Salmond, this is from someone who supports Independence in Scotland. Religion has NO place in a democratic government.
52

john z,

edinburgh 24/08/2008 18:11:20
I do think the SNP are opening Pandoras box here.
53

Miss H,

24/08/2008 18:14:08
42 I think these kinds of comparisons are pretty meaningless however the Government has given £244,000 to the Govan Law Centre to open an office in Govanhill and £160,000 to the Govanhill Together – Crossroads Youth and Community Association out of the same pot of money that was used to award £190,000 to the Scottish Islamic Foundation.
54

Fifi la Bonbon,

24/08/2008 18:15:14
#49 David Nummey - You say "And to #40: there are plenty of other projects funded by the Scottish Government which are closely aligned to Faith Groups - obviously mainly Christian.Do you want all of them to have their funding removed?"

Are there? That's news to me. The only thing I know of is the Scottish Inter Faith Council. And they get nothing like £400,000.

Could you please give details of some of these other projects?
55

Fifi la Bonbon,

24/08/2008 18:18:53
Was it Lenin who said, 'religion is the opium of the masses'.

No, it was Karl Marx. I blame the education system - a question should end with a question mark.

People are free to choose and practice their religion. But let's keep it free and unsubsidised by the taxpayer, and let's keep Scotland militantly secular.
56

Miss H,

24/08/2008 18:23:16
54 From this particular funding stream there is:

Connecting and Empowering Communities – Scottish Council of Jewish Communities (Glasgow)
Awarded £100,000 on 28 July 2008

Festival of Spirituality and Peace – Church of St john the Evangelist (Edinburgh)
Awarded £130,000 on 28 July 2008

Inter-Faith Development Project – Edinburgh Interfaith Association
Awarded £190,000 on 28 July 2008

Youth – Faith Exploration Services – Youth Community Support Agency (YCSA) (Glasgow)
Awarded £190,000 on 28 July 2008
57

Miss H,

24/08/2008 18:33:51
The SIF funding from this stream is:

Empowering Youth: Future Leaders – Scottish Islamic Foundation (Glasgow)
Awarded £190,000 on 28 July 2008

The other funding they were awarded was specifically for Islamfest which as I understand is a two pronged event about promoting Scottish business in Islamic countries and putting on displays and events related to Islamic culture, religion and art in Glasgow.

Now whether people like it or not it is a fact that Muslims are key players in Glasgow's business scene and provide a lot of employment not to mention pakora. It was after all a weegie Muslim chef who invented what Robin Cook described as Britain's national dish - chicken tikka masala. The proof of the pudding will be in the eating I guess. If they can increase business and investment for Glasgow then it will be money well spent.

58

harvey05,

indigenous 24/08/2008 18:47:40
Please Sir,

can i have my money back?
59

Dougie - Edinburgh,

Edinburgh 24/08/2008 18:51:44
The article and comments so far contain very little mention of Osama Saeed, who he is, what he stands for and what he's said. For those unfamiliar with him, you may be interested in:

Scotland’s nationalist-Muslim embrace (Tom Gallagher, Open Democracy)
"unapologetic advocate of the hardline Islamism"
http://www.opendemocracy.net/conflicts/democracy_terror/scotland_islam

Dundee Muslims urged not to help police unit
http://www.thecourier.co.uk/output/2006/11/07/newsstory8939138t0.asp

Osama Saeed's own words calling for a return of the Caliphate
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2005/nov/01/religion.world

Campaigning to convert Glasgow Catholic school to Islam
http://www.guardian.co.uk/education/2006/feb/14/schools.faithschools
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David Nisbet,

Kirkintilloch 24/08/2008 19:23:47
We let the SNP in and bang, they start throwing money at terrorists hell bent on killing us all. BNP here I come.
61

Fifi la Bonbon,

24/08/2008 19:29:15
Oh look, the BNP is crawling out from under its rock.
62

CurlySue,

24/08/2008 20:16:12
# 50 Fifi laBB
Thanks! Can't say I'm any the wiser. I think I'll have to start looking under the rocks to see if what's on offer there is worth considering.
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John PM,

Edinburgh 24/08/2008 23:27:54
"Unfortunately, the article by Stephen Maxwell is based on press reports which contain inaccurate information."

This is the problem with a grossly biased press. It comes down to a question of trust and I have no trust whatsoever in any article published by SoS. 'Any bilge will do' is their motto and the only people getting 'worked up' about this story are racist morons, great job! At least you are appealing to your fellow 'true Brits' even if they have just crawled out from under a particularly slimy rock.
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truthsleuth,

25/08/2008 00:29:09
Does the SNP 'support' the Scottish Islamic Foundation (SIF) or does the SIF 'support' the SNP.
Whichever way it is £400,000 will do nicely thank you.

So remeber you SNP supporters Independence will not mean Salmond Law but Shariah law.
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Sunniva,

Edinburgh 25/08/2008 01:59:13
You're in the loop,independencenoo, #36 & #37!

Can I add the following eye-witness information:

In mid- January 2008 (after an uncaccustomed prolonged period of silence on his blog, Rolled Up Trousers) Osama Saeed was encountered by Yours Truly daundering up the foot of the Canongate, Edinburgh, about 2pm, obviously just having left a meeting in the Scottish Parliament, with a group of 'suits'. (Actually, in very smart-looking Al Capone-style overcoats). There were about four or five of them, plus Osama Saeed, and they were moving slowly, hogging the entire width of the pavement, thus obliging Yours Truly to have to step onto the road. Saeed was blethering away excitedly, looking gleeful. The suits (or overcoats) were glowering darkly, as if intent on a plot. Saeed was heard to say as Yours Truly passed by 'We need to engage the community'.

Yours Truly thought: Something BIG is Up. Something BIG is definitely a-hatching. And come June - bang! Launch of SIF and Islamfest.

There defintely were extensive meetings with officials at the Scottish Parliament.
66

The Daleks,

Longmen 25/08/2008 05:55:43
#61

I am not, and never have been, a member of the BNP, however, I find your anti-BNP comments offensive.

Even in these days of vastly curtailed free speech, we still have the right to support the party of our choice. And to make that choice public, if we so choose.

Your insults say more about you, than they do about the BNP or its supporters.
67

Allan(handofgod137),

25/08/2008 10:20:46
Nice one wee eck, use public money to train the next wave of suicide bombers.
68

Fifi la Bonbon,

26/08/2008 01:09:05
In the Jane Haining story in this edition, meantime, #45 Gere has come out as a holocaust denier.


Fee Fi Fo Fum
I smell the blood of Nazi scum.
69

Fifi la Bonbon,

26/08/2008 01:11:01
#66 - I'm sorry that you find damning the nazi BNP to be offensive. You shouldn't be offended, you should be ashamed to be associated with nazis.


Fee Fi Fo Fum
I smell the blood of Nazi scum.
70

Fifi la Bonbon,

26/08/2008 01:21:50
All these Nazi sympathisers remind me of that song by Noel Coward - "Let's Not Be Beastly To The Germans!"

"Let's be sweet to them
And day by day repeat to them
That sterilization simply isn't done.
Let's sweetly sympathize again,
And help the scum to rise again,
But don't let's be beastly to the H**."


Apparently you're not allowed to use the word H"n, or Hu*. or even *un. Most odd.
71

The Daleks,

Longmen 26/08/2008 06:43:15
#69 Fifi

TROLL

72

Evia,

27/08/2008 01:33:52
This is not what I pay taxes for and stongly object to taxpayers' money being used for such things. Guess what party will certainly not be getting my vote.

 

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